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Tarn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

As you say, people are waking up, self included.

It's a weird one this fluoride scam.

We need less of this*trust the science*.

I've actually had someone back in the covidscamdemic actually tell me that I should * trust the science*.

Also funny peculiar that all these Green dominated councils are pushing the flouride and Wellington council apologising for not adding enough.

If the US bans it then eventually it will be banned in NZ. But given that the vaccines are still being advertised by footpath flags outside pharmacies, I can see that NZ is going to be slow on getting rid of flouride.

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Ursula Edgington, PhD's avatar

The US EPA has banned many poisons over the decades - made no difference to NZs EPA, because "NZ is unique". Yeah, Nah.

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Poisoned Kiwi's avatar

When I was a child I remember being told by a teacher with pride that NZ was great because we were small enough to be used as a test subject to experiment on. Stupid teacher.

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Tarn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

Looking for fluoride free beer.

Hard to find information which can be taken to mean that question not encouraged.

Putting bucket out for rain drinking water.

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gettingreadyfor25's avatar

I'm not convinced by the idea that its just industry wanting to get rid of waste and make a small profit "Has there been a deal struck perhaps, to ‘disappear’ some inconvenient hazardous waste, at a profit?". The quantity of material used to fluoridate the water seems too small to make a dent of any significance in the task of getting rid of waste byproducts. Are we even sure these chems ARE waste byproducts? Are they actually manufactured SPECIFICALLY for the purpose of being added to water? I suspect, like the covid jab harms, that its not just ignorance and a money making scheme, it's almost certainly far more sinister.

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Ursula Edgington, PhD's avatar

I think @geoffpainphd would be able to assist there? It’s definitely a byproduct. The evidence is in the doco I included. And there is tonnes of this chemical being processed and re-processed again and again in order to ‘fulfil’ the required amounts at each of the water treatment plants. It’s a gravy train. And I tell you who IS making money from this process locally: the local plumbers and suppliers of RO filtration systems. No one wants to drink the town water anyway, it tastes disgusting and is often deemed unsafe. Even less people want to drink it with fluoride added.

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gettingreadyfor25's avatar

I was thinking about Cui Bono and my first thought was the RO filtration sellers. But that's probably because I had one installed recently and it cost quite a bit, although it will pay for itself in less than a year by saving on filtered bottle water.

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yelloseed's avatar

The 'waste product' claim was challenged and upheld by the Advertising Standards Authority after complaints about an advert run by FFNZ in 2016: 'EPA spokesperson Rebecca Hammer said that “fluoridation was a good solution to pollution”.

https://fluoridefree.org.nz/16-297-tv-waste-ad-decision-not-upheld/

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JacqNSW's avatar

'EPA spokesperson Rebecca Hammer said that “fluoridation was a good solution to pollution”.

Sounds like this dame believes people should eat and drink pollution. Oh dear, she believes we should be garbage gutzers. I would appreciate her to provide us several demonstrations on how she eats/drinks pollution.

Maybe Rebecca Hammer is a Billy Goat Grates student. His famous statement " . . . if we make really good vaccines we can control the world population . . . "

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Poisoned Kiwi's avatar

Great research Ursula. Good to see the invoices; the look padded to me after a quick glance. Toothpaste is one I use. Was planning on making some commercially pre-nonsense.

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Jenny Dunn's avatar

I have been fighting this with my local council in Aus however there fall back is all the so called experts saying it’s safe!!! I think the biggest problem is the concentration of Fluoride in a takeaway coffee, restaurant food etc and you need an expensive filter to get it all out. I keep saying (to whoever will listen) it would be cheaper for Council to buy and give away fluoride toothpaste to those who want it.

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JacqNSW's avatar

See Dear Geoff's article, in fact one of many of his articles regarding fluoride on his substack page.

https://geoffpain.substack.com/p/brain-damage-by-fluoride-updated?utm_source=publication-search

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MF's avatar

When we first arrived in New Zealand we were shocked at the amount of sugar in canned, bottled and processed foods here. Having lived in Africa where it’s used was controlled, the excess was very noticeable. Are there no Governmental guidelines on the level of sugar allowable in foodstuffs?

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MF's avatar

You’re afraid of a huge fine, but that doesn’t prevent you from contesting this decree, as a Council obeying the higher Law regarding people’s right to choose. Don’t let fear stop you contesting this!!!

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