Excellent work. Just a personal anecdote about health (sic) apps.
Because I refuse to use them, I will as my first port-o-call book online. However, this is very clunky and impossible to amend after one has booked. Therefore one is forced to ring up the 'front desk' if there is a booking issue.
Alas, it has been years since I have been able to speak to someone in medical reception who speaks clearly and they are often rude on the phone.
So in that case I am forced to travel in person to the clinic to attend to my booking, where I am met with more rudeness: why aren't you using the app, why are you bothering us, why are you here, etc.
The medical system is a humilation ritual for sure. Thanks again for your work.
When I was extremely sick this year, struggling to breathe and in desperate need of antibiotics, I could not see my usual conspiracy analyst GP - I was forced into seeing some numpty. Because I would not mask or test, the receptionist made me stand in a broom closet with medical waste.
They control the medicine and I was very sick, scared of both the police and hospital, and very vulnerable.
Thank you that is very kind of you. People have been very cruel, judgemental and rude about the fact that I needed to see the doctor, as if it was all in my head and I 'deserved everything I got.' It has upset me a lot.
It's a great idea, but I do not think these 'freedom lawyers' are all that interested. If they were, they would not be wasting their time on unwinnable cases. They would be suing on behalf of the unjabbed who are still being murdered with remdesivir and unable to get organ transplants, work or volunteer outside Emergency powers. You would have to ask him/them why they are not doing these things.
I urge people to not use medical services - to learn about how to deal with your issues WITHOUT consulting with the ones who caused the issues in the first place. Job one is to get off medications ASAP. We've been trained to run to doctor at the slightest issue so that we've become completely dependent on them, have given over all our power to them and have lost touch with our own body intelligence. That's why it was so easy for them to exploit us when they were ready to start opening murdering us.
That is just spectacular. I've done similar things in the last couple of years except I was never on any meds. I deeply admire people who get off meds because I know the system makes you feel as if you will die without their poisons and doctors/nurses have no problem abusing you to make you feel even worse.
Oh, sorry, I didn’t see that you’d written hospital. My mistake, sorry. But that makes you being in a broom cupboard with medical waste even worse! What a shocking disgrace.
I did not go to the hospital. It was a GP clinic but I could not breathe. The point of going to the GP was to stay out of hospital where I may have been killed with remdesivir. One's choices are limited when one cannot breathe well.
Oh, sorry Excess, it seems I’m having trouble processing the written word!
Yes, I would not like to go anywhere near a hospital, for reason you’ve said, and more.
Sure, I get that choices of where to go are limited ! I think about myself in the same position, and would have to go to the nearest clinic, which is not where I normally go. If they had an appointment-I think I’d just force the issue, but they’d probably send me to hospital!
The clinic I go to is 60km away, if I couldn’t breathe, I really think I’d end up ringing 000 and take my chances.
Very scary.
Sorry I’ve wasted your time Excess, with my non understanding! Forgive me?!
It's so alarming that we have to now be alert all the time to being exploited, and with 'our governments' at the forefront of betraying us.
In Australia the latest is the Mis/Disinformation Bill which seeks to prevent us from discussing taxpayer-funded public health policy on public forums.
My physician group here in Northland tried to get me to sign up online in 2018 for the Manage My Health scheme, but I declined. I kept on getting emails from the outfit, detailing all the medical info I'd be able to access so easily online if I sign up, and the ease of getting prescription refills, etc., but I ignored them. And when this physician group went along with the "safe and effective" Covid jab propaganda and was pushing the jabs on their patients via emails, including emails noting that I hadn't yet come in for my jabs, I told them I was no longer a patient of theirs, due to their pushing experimental jabs that had skipped all animal trials, and were obviously dangerous due to the early data coming out from Israel, one of the first countries to start jabbing their hapless population. With doctors like those brainless puppets of the WHO, I'm better off being my own physician.
It’s tempting to comply with tyranny when it’s “ for our own good “ and the alternative is what ever each of might fear the most. But who ever said words to the effect of …..you can’t comply your way out of tyranny, spoke the truth.
I dont think anyone is saying don’t go to your doctor or get a med you definitely need - I’m just highlighting how our data is being exploited and ways we can reduce the control mechanisms in place that can screw us down if we dont comply.
Nov 20·edited Nov 20Liked by Ursula Edgington, PhD
Yep I get you Ursula, but if someone needs medication to live, what are they to do but comply?
I appreciate you’re highlighting how our data is being exploited. I’m an Aussie, you’d know we’ve got digital ID ready to go, and Michael Ginsberg is trying to get people who are awake to help him scare people from adopting this draconian thing.
If anyone can help, he needs:
1)People with copywriting and especially video editing skills
2) Musicians with a flare for scary music and lyrics
3) Money to buy ad slots on legacy media and social media.
I might add, this is urgent!
I’ve just asked him for his best contact info, Ursula would you know?
Thanks and yes I agree..have been thinking of asking them to not use it…suppose I’ll get push back…I had heard it’s all part of the control and relates to 15min cities even!
Excellent work. Just a personal anecdote about health (sic) apps.
Because I refuse to use them, I will as my first port-o-call book online. However, this is very clunky and impossible to amend after one has booked. Therefore one is forced to ring up the 'front desk' if there is a booking issue.
Alas, it has been years since I have been able to speak to someone in medical reception who speaks clearly and they are often rude on the phone.
So in that case I am forced to travel in person to the clinic to attend to my booking, where I am met with more rudeness: why aren't you using the app, why are you bothering us, why are you here, etc.
The medical system is a humilation ritual for sure. Thanks again for your work.
I know what you mean. Urghh. I’m lucky not to need to engage with the system at all, apart from I need to progress this to Stage 2 : https://open.substack.com/pub/informedheart/p/trying-to-wake-up-my-gp-stage-1?r=q9aq0&utm_medium=ios
When I was extremely sick this year, struggling to breathe and in desperate need of antibiotics, I could not see my usual conspiracy analyst GP - I was forced into seeing some numpty. Because I would not mask or test, the receptionist made me stand in a broom closet with medical waste.
They control the medicine and I was very sick, scared of both the police and hospital, and very vulnerable.
New Normal.
“ New normal “ only if you agree .
May God in His amazing mercy , guide you.
They control the medicine. Those were my choices. I hope you are never in that position.
In no way did I intend to cause you to feel criticized please excuse me I am not very good with words sometimes .
Thank you that is very kind of you. People have been very cruel, judgemental and rude about the fact that I needed to see the doctor, as if it was all in my head and I 'deserved everything I got.' It has upset me a lot.
That is an utter disgrace. Maybe Julian Gillespie can help you sue them.
It's a great idea, but I do not think these 'freedom lawyers' are all that interested. If they were, they would not be wasting their time on unwinnable cases. They would be suing on behalf of the unjabbed who are still being murdered with remdesivir and unable to get organ transplants, work or volunteer outside Emergency powers. You would have to ask him/them why they are not doing these things.
You are quite correct Excess! The comment was meant as sarcasm, but I should have realised it wouldn’t come across as such. Apologies.
LOL
That's so funny. Sorry, I did not get the sarcasm! I like to put a little /s when I am writing sarcasm.
I urge people to not use medical services - to learn about how to deal with your issues WITHOUT consulting with the ones who caused the issues in the first place. Job one is to get off medications ASAP. We've been trained to run to doctor at the slightest issue so that we've become completely dependent on them, have given over all our power to them and have lost touch with our own body intelligence. That's why it was so easy for them to exploit us when they were ready to start opening murdering us.
Absolutely agree ! And I did indeed get off all meds. Then used diet and supplements to heal. That and the absolute Grace of God.
That is just spectacular. I've done similar things in the last couple of years except I was never on any meds. I deeply admire people who get off meds because I know the system makes you feel as if you will die without their poisons and doctors/nurses have no problem abusing you to make you feel even worse.
Can you go to another clinic Excess, or not feasible?
It was an emergency.
Oh, sorry, I didn’t see that you’d written hospital. My mistake, sorry. But that makes you being in a broom cupboard with medical waste even worse! What a shocking disgrace.
I did not go to the hospital. It was a GP clinic but I could not breathe. The point of going to the GP was to stay out of hospital where I may have been killed with remdesivir. One's choices are limited when one cannot breathe well.
Oh, sorry Excess, it seems I’m having trouble processing the written word!
Yes, I would not like to go anywhere near a hospital, for reason you’ve said, and more.
Sure, I get that choices of where to go are limited ! I think about myself in the same position, and would have to go to the nearest clinic, which is not where I normally go. If they had an appointment-I think I’d just force the issue, but they’d probably send me to hospital!
The clinic I go to is 60km away, if I couldn’t breathe, I really think I’d end up ringing 000 and take my chances.
Very scary.
Sorry I’ve wasted your time Excess, with my non understanding! Forgive me?!
It's so alarming that we have to now be alert all the time to being exploited, and with 'our governments' at the forefront of betraying us.
In Australia the latest is the Mis/Disinformation Bill which seeks to prevent us from discussing taxpayer-funded public health policy on public forums.
See my article: "...urging people to not get government approved vaccines" would be "deemed misinformation and disinformation under the laws" https://elizabethhart.substack.com/p/urging-people-to-not-get-government
How dire is this, that 'our own governments' are our enemy?!
My physician group here in Northland tried to get me to sign up online in 2018 for the Manage My Health scheme, but I declined. I kept on getting emails from the outfit, detailing all the medical info I'd be able to access so easily online if I sign up, and the ease of getting prescription refills, etc., but I ignored them. And when this physician group went along with the "safe and effective" Covid jab propaganda and was pushing the jabs on their patients via emails, including emails noting that I hadn't yet come in for my jabs, I told them I was no longer a patient of theirs, due to their pushing experimental jabs that had skipped all animal trials, and were obviously dangerous due to the early data coming out from Israel, one of the first countries to start jabbing their hapless population. With doctors like those brainless puppets of the WHO, I'm better off being my own physician.
It’s tempting to comply with tyranny when it’s “ for our own good “ and the alternative is what ever each of might fear the most. But who ever said words to the effect of …..you can’t comply your way out of tyranny, spoke the truth.
Thank you for your work Ursula .
What does one do when one needs insulin? Type 1 diabetic.
I dont think anyone is saying don’t go to your doctor or get a med you definitely need - I’m just highlighting how our data is being exploited and ways we can reduce the control mechanisms in place that can screw us down if we dont comply.
Yep I get you Ursula, but if someone needs medication to live, what are they to do but comply?
I appreciate you’re highlighting how our data is being exploited. I’m an Aussie, you’d know we’ve got digital ID ready to go, and Michael Ginsberg is trying to get people who are awake to help him scare people from adopting this draconian thing.
If anyone can help, he needs:
1)People with copywriting and especially video editing skills
2) Musicians with a flare for scary music and lyrics
3) Money to buy ad slots on legacy media and social media.
I might add, this is urgent!
I’ve just asked him for his best contact info, Ursula would you know?
Michael got back to me his best contact is: michael@actionabletruth.media
And here is his substack https://actionabletruth.substack.com/
Click on Chat to see what he’s saying, people can message him through there as well.
We really need help with this, our so called gov’t wants to enforce this by end of year. I don’t know about that though.
We’ve got mis/dis info bill in parliament right now.
All awake Kiwis would know New Zealand is pretty much in lockstep with AU, so this is important to ALL of us!
Yes I research & write with Michael, we wrote about ARC & Legatum together for example.
I just got Michael’s best contact, and put it in my comment above.
I don’t have the Mansge my health app, but I get emails through it…is it still not a good thing?
Personally I wouldn’t have anything to do with it! Emails aren’t secure either of course - there’s another can of worms!
Thanks and yes I agree..have been thinking of asking them to not use it…suppose I’ll get push back…I had heard it’s all part of the control and relates to 15min cities even!
Thanks for your answer and the work you do 🌹